(Our preferences), Fanfiction/Apocrypha is fictional stuff written involving/expressing a particular view of TES (written stuff set in TES universe but not included in the games), C0DA (anyone's) is a work of fiction involving/expressing a particular view of TES in a different way to how Bethesda's TES is typically done, Apocrypha is stuff that fits into a view of TES and that we generally like. That doesn't make it real; because none of this is real. Cool way to analyze it. 30 of the top infographics from /r/coolguides for you to favorget. C0da … Bethesda will tell you the games are the lore. It's a narrative declaration of the open-source lore remark he made months ago. #Morrowind #c0da #I long ago wanted to do a comic that's like one of those cheesy GI JOE safety comics #But instead of buttslap or waterboard or whatever they're called Numidium comes in and explains the safety tips in blank speech bubbles #As the comic gets progressively more distorted and eventually just ends in total blackness #Numidium #Jubal C0DA makes this canon. Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:33 am. Thank you. Canon announces EOS C70, the first Cinema EOS camera equipped with an RF mount & Mount Adapter EF-EOS R 0.71x 25 Sep 2020 — Canon announced today, the launch of the EOS C70 camera, the newest addition to the Cinema EOS System. Let me quote Plato (The Republic) "Now let me ask you another question: Which is the art of painting designed to be _ an imitation of things as they are, or as they appear - of appearance or of reality? Is the fourth wall canon because of this? As a whole, the body is not internally consistent: many elements directly contradict themselves. The most commonly used ones are, A corpus of writings. That cycle stops with C0DA "Canon" is a term of the past. We've been expecting the engagement to be announced for years. 434 16. Jubal tells several versions of Vivec's story to emphasize that many different Tamriels can co-exist. I thought it might be appropriate to share the following from the wiki page on codas in music: Charles Burkhart suggests that the reason codas are common, even necessary, is that, in the climax of the main body of a piece, a "particularly effortful passage", often an expanded phrase, is often created by "working an idea through to its structural conclusions" and that, after all this momentum is created, a coda is required to "look back" on the main body, allow listeners to "take it all in", and "create a sense of balance. The world is created and destroyed, over and over again, in much the same way every time. C0DA isn’t a fancy word for headcanon, unless your headcanon is a work of fiction set in a different genre and a different setting than the original universe with the expressed purpose of reinterpreting the world rather than expanding it. Your argument that ''everyone plays differently, thus everyone's playstyle is canon'' is nice, but not how it works. 0. You can have your own canon/C0DA/whatever and that’s fine but it doesn’t apply to debating the character as they appear in official lore. /r/teslore is a subreddit dedicated to the discussion and creation of the vast lore of The Elder Scrolls. CHIM raises so many questions about ... Michael Kirkbride—considered the godfather of TES lore—created C0DA … Elder Scrolls' lore is too strange already. Yeah, like that.”, I understand where the question of C0DA appearing in game comes from. Works that are often called "apocrypha" here on r/teslore, but use the themes, settings, or conventions of an Elder Scrolls work - also called Fan Fiction. Well, because nearly a year later people are still confused (and that's OK). #33902725 is also a reply to the same post. It goes against the very purpose of the word ''canon''. C0DA is a project which exists outside of the system of lore upon which the games are based. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. This site uses cookies for analytics, personalized content and ads. That is why the story ends in a marriage. C0DA is … 30 of the top infographics from /r/coolguides for you to favorget. < > Showing 1-4 of 4 comments . Here is an example sentence using each meaning of canon. No, you can't dismiss criticism by saying "you just won't get it". It's technically "canon" (not as in more correct, but as in The developers' interpretation), Headcanon is our individual own things. C0DA isn’t meant to appear within the games, or even necessarily to influence them. So I seriously doubt that Bethesda is going to be using C0da and any of MK's "there is no cannon anymore" works except for what charcaters and names they like, which because they own the rights to the game they can use whatever they wish. Binkini-clad Dragonborn beating MLP-Dragons with an inflatable wombat? Is it possible you’ll see references to things or concepts in C0DA, or new things that interplay with ideas in C0DA? The canon thing is all about your interpretation of it being as valid as anyone else's: moreover, you can expand on it as you see fit. #Morrowind #c0da #I long ago wanted to do a comic that's like one of those cheesy GI JOE safety comics #But instead of buttslap or waterboard or whatever they're called Numidium comes in and explains the safety tips in blank speech bubbles #As the comic gets progressively more distorted and eventually just ends in total blackness #Numidium #Jubal An established principle. No. It's about codifying and aesthetically enshrining a principle of interpretation that says you can believe what you want about a fictional world, if you think it's more interesting and fun that way. Edit: Please check Samphire's reply - it's a slightly better summary than mine (set out more technically, clears up the accidental differentiation of fanfiction and apocrypha I had). AKB wrote:That quote was more in relation to how the MMO will affect the development of the main series (something fans frequently were worried would be put on hold), not in relation to its canonical status. ToothBrush. C0DA. It's all made up. We would like to introduce you to the latest Canon products. What is the truth, then, and what is canon in TES lore? Resident Evil C0DA Is the Part of the Dream Cycle. http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:AngryEnclaveSoldier/The_true_meaning_of_C0DA. edit: meh nevermind, the link in the blog wasn't the proper one, you now got to look at the bottom left corner and click that c0da>> button to go to the TES c0da, hard to see on a big screen. ToothBrush. All of these works are part of the Elder Scrolls. Facebook पर Wheels of Lulz को और देखें See more of Wheels of Lulz on Facebook. Jubal's eventual accusation is that this sort of thinking secretly wants a "victor" - a version that wins at the expense of eveyone else. The promotional materials for said video games: maps, Pocket Guides to the Empire, Anthologies, Art Books, etcetera. I don’t think there were any cannons in C0DA. The mythologies of the past were ever evolving, tweaked by hundreds of anonymous storytellers, changing, growing, self-contradicting and alive. Log In I see it like this. #2. [UL 1] C0DA's timeline officially begins with a currently unreleased text known as "Dies Irae," said to feature a catastro… Now, if someone approaches me and says "actually, this bit of text from this piece of the Elder Scrolls directly contradicts that idea", (be it apocrypha or dialogue from a video game), I have a choice: Change my opinion to match that text, or Not. Anonymous 12/10/20(Thu)23:51:22 No. And then bring it to us, because myth doesn't become myth until it is shared. It's a showdown between corporate canon and ancient open-source storytelling. I think it should be partially canon. But just as there's no reason to throw some randomass French all up in papers with fin de siècle, there's no need to call literally anything a c0da (especially since, like hope I showed, c0da was supposed to be a very specific thing). Like ffxivcryptids but for The Elder Scrolls Online--though not affiliated with the blog in question in any way. from me), I really appreciate this. Elder Scrolls is a FANDOM Games Community. Will give this a read. C0DA is about doing away with the idea of canon. I apply C0DA to universes other than TES. 242 172 1. I know that we give head-canons and fan-fictions more respect around here than in other circles, and we want to make it clear that anything Elder Scrolls made by anyone is of equal value to stuff made by Bethesda, but pretentious obfuscation isn't the way. C0DA isn't a "concept" or topic being explained by MK it is an actual thing of substance. Just going by what we see in the game, the Numidium isn't a (successful) artificial god and whenever it is used for something it only manages to break the universe and maybe erase a species from existence. Totally. The Star Wars Expanded Universe was official canon (conflicts are decided case by case, but generally novels are ranked highest, comics next, then video games, then RPG sourcebooks). The personal canon/canons of Shinji Ikari999.Shinji Ikari999. I just hope Dragon Ball Minus is not canon . 242 172 1. The other reason is that I've seen people being overzealous about applying the word (and the concept), and I think that it's not helping the community at all. And no, Bethesda didn't complain about C0DA or something like that. I'd say, as out of place it was for Agent 47's character, it's still an important piece of the story.. All of it was in the good name of freeing the minds of us lesser mortals. All of it was in the good name of freeing the minds of us lesser mortals. C0DA aims to truly bring the concept of Open Source to the Elder Scrolls, and encourages any artist, writer, or thinker to expand, explore, and rework it to their heart's content. (Some people here don't like the term fan-fiction because it implies that the work is somehow less valuable than Bethesda's works.). Wesat. It isn't yet another term for headcanon or fanfiction to confuse newcomers with. This is a little confusing, but I'll try to explain it as best as I can. Numidium represents the non-contributor who sits back and nay-says everyone else's ideas intead of inventing their own Tamriel. That's what we see (albeit adapted) in the games. It isn’t like Water Getting Girl or Shor Son of Shor, both of which exist within the world with the primary function of making it deeper and more interesting. below I have included the web address, so you can read the entire thread yourself. It's not canon in my opinion. This guy (allegedly) took drugs again, and tried to destroy the idea of an Official Elder Scrolls canon with the power of comics. Probably See Fanfiction. Anything and everything is valid. By continuing to browse this site, you agree to this use. The Star Wars Expanded Universe was official canon (conflicts are decided case by case, but generally novels are ranked highest, comics next, then video games, then RPG sourcebooks). I suppose people here like to have a term that they feel is "their own", but it comes at the cost of just excluding people without actually conveying any difference of meaning. Seriously after i see Dragon Ball Minus why Toriyama changing Goku past is really rip-off Superman ? Or, to use another play as the starting point, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead. Also potentially exists in Mora's Plane. Jan 15, 2020 #407 You can say that his true form , but why many people in r/teslore could't say that , they read only thing from sermon12 r/teslore has alot of people with heavily conflicting views and interpretations on the lore. If you don't know kalpas--time in TES is cyclical, to an extent. Some of the editions make only minor edits to the “real,” original work of fiction, others make sweeping alterations. Wiki Points. Numidium, the Reality Warping Humongous Mecha of Dwemer construction, presumed destroyed following the events of Daggerfall, returns after having been caught in a time warp. How far does "c0da makes this canon" go? It's not a new idea. 242 172 1. I think we need to bring Tamrielic lore back to more of a traditional mythology too - where the myths are created by the people who tell them and not some corporation. I understood very little of it except what you explained here. Heavy User. NUK3D. My C0DA: Lorewise, I've had my say on these matters for the time being, and now all of my work is canon since canon is no longer a word with practical utility. Its MK's arguement over what is cannon and intellectual property rights. If you have to explain yourself by saying "a c0da is pretty much a head-canon, an apocrypha is pretty much a fan-fiction" every time a newcomer arrives, then there's little point having the distinction to begin with. The weird TV-head part is there to comment on the commercial nature of canon that is dictated by a corporation for profit. You might also occasionally hear something about "lowercase c0da texts" or something to that effect - that refers to the other texts hosted on c0da.es, such as the Hahd bookcover or the Ayrenn version of KINMUNE. Heavy User. It's a narrative declaration of the open-source lore remark he made months ago. To be perfectly honest though - C0DA left me very confused. It will get more traffic here than it would on my tumblr, and hopefully clarify more things for more people. We're a specialized area of study, like biology or art history. Why am I posting this here, now? The canon thing is all about your interpretation of it being as valid as anyone else's: moreover, you can expand on it as you see fit. Canon Inc. (キヤノン （ キャノン ） 株式会社, Kyanon kabushiki gaisha) is a Japanese multinational corporation headquartered in Ōta, Tokyo, Japan, specializing in optical, imaging, and industrial products, such as lenses, cameras, medical equipment, scanners, printers, and semiconductor manufacturing equipment. The video game from ZeniMax Media: "The Elder Scrolls Online". Rather than explaining in a thousand words how the Dunmer feel about Almsivi and their relation to them, it says, “Ever watched Avengers? The superhero scene isn’t there for some in-universe purpose, it isn’t there because in the future Tamriel has TV, or because it’s a drug trance of Jubal’s or anything like that. Michael’s C0DA is also very self-aware (though yours doesn’t have to be). "Headcanon" is a fancy word for opinion, or preference. The book serves as a gateway to the Western canon. c0da makes it canon. Forum Posts. A c0da is a piece of writing reexamining the universe using the universe's own themes. This is why Jubal cuts off his hands. Post Sep 24, 2018 #1 2018-09-24T05:11. Spelling it with allcaps and a zero makes it distinct from all the other things that are named “coda.” (Michael probably also had an authorial reason, but I can speak only to the marketing angle). This is copied from two tumblr posts, and then slightly expanded. This doesn't "create" a "splinter timeline" or "parallel Nirn". Like I said all the way up there, it’s not like people at Bethesda hate it ;). C0da doesn't make anything canon though. #1. fauxpas. He is not engaging in an argument, he is embracing all versions of Tamriel and declaring everything equally valid. C0DA. For an example, my preference is that Lyg is on the opposite side of Tamriel on a Nirn that's shaped like a moebius loop. There will be no next kalpa. But, lore-friendly doesn't mean canon anyway. This is true of Tamriel in general. C0DA isn’t a fancy word for fanfiction or apocrypha or anything else you want to call it - though your fanfiction could certainly be a c0da. Feb 3 @ 1:25pm Its not. Some other stuff that I am certainly overlooking. But hopefully the above explanation shows why that question is irrelevant. If I wrote some fan fiction and posted it to the web and they liked parts of it they could use whatever they wished of my writing without paying me or even acknowledging my contributions. But… this has been taken to a reductio ad absurdum in some places, with the phrase “c0da makes it canon” doing the rounds. It's a standard that is set by the storyteller, so any and all people involved in related discussions have a benchmark. Multiple versions of reality based on our decisions is canon thanks to ESO, so in theory CODA would be canon in some reality, but probably not officially so. There are some terms that are necessary for efficient communication about things specific to our area of study. The long and short of it, though, is that C0DA is the prologue to an open source TES universe, and MK’s way of saying that both everything and nothing is canon. The theme of the comic is the death and rebirth of the world, and its setting is a far future, science-fantasy Masser. The theme of the comic is the death and rebirth of the world, and its setting is a far future, science-fantasy Masser. Whether the rest of the body of The Elder Scrolls agrees with that preference is irrelevant. Press J to jump to the feed. While it does advance TES technology, there wasn’t any gunpowder anywhere. Do you mind if I add "what is C0DA" to the FAQ and just put a link to this? Alongside the story, the comic pushes the idea of Tamriel as a collective fiction free to be interpreted, rewritten, and personalized by its reader. With C0DA, you are free to remove this benchmark and set your own - just don't expect everyone involved to follow the same path. C0DA isn’t about removing canon, it’s about the freedom to choose our own canon based on the actions we have taken within our playthroughs, and the conclusions we have come to when researching the vast library of lore that is The Elder Scrolls. C0DA is a project which exists outside of the system of lore upon which the games are based. Is C0DA canon? Many people including myself have espoused this viewpoint for ages now. As for C0DA, it is not canon. Well after doing plenty of research I found MK's own words and comments about C0da. If you'd like to know more, check out this wonderful writeup by Jeroic. Added the bits in brackets. There are books, movies, theatre productions, audiobooks, a ballet… but they are all Romeo and Juliet. There is no "real" Tamriel that certain works are closer to than others. ToothBrush. 1069386. CHIM raises so many questions about ... Michael Kirkbride—considered the godfather of TES lore—created C0DA … Thank you! The Amaranth is a state that lies beyond all existence and the means to create a brand new universe; it was designed to present the natural "end-point" of the Elder Scrolls mythology. Learn more This story protests the modern situation. ESO does add a lot of cool stuff to the lore, but it wastes a ton of potential at the same time. The books of the Bible accepted as Holy Scripture. All of the works on The Imperial Library. Stealing!! Though, don't let my opinions judge your C0DA. This, of course, also means that C0DA itself also both is and is not canon. Canon is a noun that has a few different meanings. http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1488812-c0da-lore-discussion/page-4?hl=%20c0da. This guy (allegedly) took drugs again, and tried to destroy the idea of an Official Elder Scrolls canon with the power of comics. (to which MK replies) Toesock, beautiful as always. I don't think so, it just means that we can make up our own interpretations of the Elder Scrolls universe, which was already being done before C0DA. The kalpic cycle comes to an end. Star Wars: . Some of their members don't even consider C0DA canon, whereas we here do. Where narrative is a profit-driven endeavor and stories are owned by corporations. Actually, just so I can get this straight (sometimes really simple terms helps - I don't mean to take anything away from your post as it's a damn sight better than I could possibly express this): Bethesda's Tamriel is their own thing. Not that I have much against Bethesda, but I think MK was right when he said canon is becoming less defined. are then different versions of this one central piece of fiction, just like there are many different editions of Shakespeare’s play. C0da isn't official canon, so even though I like it I don't consider it to be part of the world. Michael’s C0DA is, in other words, not just his view on the world. You used c0da as example earlier : much of mks work aren’t used in game but people will make headcanons considering them canon, etc, etc. sjrekis. 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